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SSD-10349-MOD-2 Multi-Trades and Digital Technology Hub at TAFE Meadowbank - Additional two levels to the approved car-park

City of Ryde

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Construction of an additional two levels of carparking to the approved carpark located on the site's See Street frontage.

Attachments & Resources

Notice of Exhibition (1)

Modification Application (12)

Response to Submissions (3)

Agency Advice (4)

Additional Information (1)

Determination (4)

Consolidated Consent (1)

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Name Withheld
Object
MEADOWBANK , New South Wales
Message
No way! As a resident of See Street we strongly object to adding 2 more stories to car park. I’m probably one of only a few residents on See Street who is able to express our thoughts on this development so I’m writing on behalf of them as well. It’s not very considerate to the overall landscape of the street especially considering its next to a beautify heritage house. With nothing higher on the street and without setbacks in proportion to the height it will look very much out of place and further distroy the surrounding look and feel of a suburban street. Call it what you like but a 4 story car park next to residential houses is defiantly not considered a ‘minor’ visual impact. We might as well use this opportunity and apply for 4 story concrete houses on the street by taking references to the reports done to the carpark. To put it bluntly what’s the point of the public hearing? Just get meaningless reports done in favour of the development. I believe the approval will most possibly be granted so writing this letter is likely meaningless. Hope I’m wrong about that. We are very angry with this proposal and hope it can still be stopped.
Name Withheld
Object
MEADOWBANK , New South Wales
Message
As we are located right across the street the building currently already affects our view out, we are very unhappy if the building is even taller by two levels.
As you may be aware, last year we were told that a construction plan will be processed across our backyard side by which we already will suffer from the other direction.
We really hope our environment could be getting better, not getting worse and worse. Therefore, we sincerely suggest an alternative plan could be achieved and then our environment could not be suffered so badly.
Steven Gronau
Object
MEADOWBANK , New South Wales
Message
I object to the modification being made under the TAFE Meadowbank SSD10349-MOD-2 Additional two levels to the approved car-park.
The additional 2 levels will exceed all other Building and Tree heights currently on See Street.
The additions will be major eyesore to the suburban house lined street scape on the eastern side of See Street.
The modified building will, from any position along See Street, tower over every other building, the TAFE Building behind it are set back and do not impose on the area as much as this will.
Using the current Multi storey car park which is nearing completion and has lights connected and working, throws a constant light pollution across our houses and front yard after dusk. The paneling used to make the building interesting in the day time hours is overwhelmed by the internal Car park lights and is an ugly industrial wasteland at night. The proposed additional levels will increase the Light pollution over the Heritage listed property of 34 See Street and 1a Angas Street and will be seen by all the houses and home units in in the nearby area and double the area impacted.
I objected to the original heritage impact statement as it referenced a building and occupation that was 17years out of Date, this has not been rectified in the latest amendments. The heritage impact Statement is not taking into consideration the significance of the buildings at 34 See Street and 1a Angas Street have with the Mellor Meadowbank Manufacturing works, which used to occupy the site of the Meadowbank TAFE. This also disrespects the heritage listed monument (on the Corner of See and Angas Streets) of the respected manager of the Mellor Meadowbank Manufacturing works and Meadowbank TAFE sites History.
The most significant impact the additional 2 levels will have on the surrounding area are on the Shadows cast over the buildings at 34 See Street and 1a Angas Street. This building will shroud the buildings and yards in shade where the current building only has a minor impact. I have attached for your review the Specific Architectural drawings SHADOW DIAGRAMS IMPACT STUDY, see “2. Appendix B_Architectural Drawings_Carpark pg9” and “Mod2 Appendix 2 - Architectural Plans pg8” to illustrate the impact. This is not acceptable.
I also object to the direction of the traffic flow within the Multi storey car park as the Up-ramps to the higher levels are facing the street. This will increase the car noises that will reverberate across the road to residential dwellings and a Primary School. The Up-ramps should have been placed on the Western side of the building and the noise retained within the TAFE precinct. This can still be changed before the opening and final stages of the current multi storey car park.
I object that the additions that are being proposed to a public building are to make the building a viable proposition to sell this to a private Company, who will charge staff and students. The majority of the TAFE Students are starting out in their working life and have little income, so they will not have spare cash to spend on parking in the car park. The previous Open car park opposite 10 See Street was not fully utilised while there was a menial charge. The TAFE students wouldn’t pay to Park as they want to save money so they will then clog the Streets around Meadowbank. If the intent is to make this a Commuter car park that will defeat the whole purpose as to why this was being built in the 1st place and increase traffic through the back streets of West Ryde, Ryde and Meadowbank.
The Current Car park needs to be Free for TAFE Staff and Students to free up the Streets currently made unsafe by the Staff and Students that have to move their cars every 2 hours in fear of council park rangers booking them. There is a Day Care next to the Car park in the TAFE grounds, across the road in Angas street as well as the Italian Bilingual School from K to 6 and the soon to be completed Meadowbank K to 12 School. The increased traffic flow and now the continual movement of cars will put the lives of children at risk.
The increased traffic flow which has also not been taken into consideration in the revised documents, and the need for the additional parking spaces are not needed as the number of staff and students have not increased as stated in your submission. Quote: “Considering that this application only seeks to increase the total on-site car parking provision and no changes are proposed to staff and student numbers previously forecast, no increase in traffic generation is expected from that previously assessed in the original TAIA (GTA, 2020).” So why are you adding more car park spaces?
The removal of the car parking space from the TAFE Meadowbank Multi-Trades and Digital Technology Hub (MTDTH) was made months before the drawings of the current multi-storey car park (MSCP). The addition of 2 floors is not requires as the multi storey car park catered for the MTDTH car spaces that were removed in their modifications, you are just double counting. NSW Projects have deliberately deceived the community by designing a car park that can have 2 additional floors added after the lower building was approved. This is underhanded and deceitful and in breach of the NSW Governments Projects Code of Conduct.
In closing, the current building is nearing completions with landscaping in the final stage, the additional 2 floors will require the removal of the panels, safety barriers, Lighting poles on the top floor and the reinstatement of the construction fencing and security. Not to mention the additional landscaping that will need to be redone post the additions being completed. This is a waste of tax payer money for no added benefit to the Staff, Student or community. I ask you, where do the Staff and students park for the next 12 months while the additions are being put to the building, as you have built over all available parking spaces on the TAFE property? You are impacting the community again for not benefit. Make the current multi storey car park free to Staff and students of TAFE and open it as soon as possible in its current state for perpetuity.
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Name Withheld
Support
WEST RYDE , New South Wales
Message
The local streets near the TAFE are already overcrowded with cars, with limited parking for residents during the day. The issue will only get worse as insufficient parking has been provisioned for the new school site. I therefore support the proposal to add additional parking at the current site.

On a related note, can the planners who eventually approve the construction (assuming it goes ahead) PLEASE ensure the impact to residents is minimised as much as possible, particularly as it relates to noise and parking. If a crane is required, please use an electric one so that residents don't have to suffer unnecessarily as was the case with a diesel crane used on the nearby school site. Please also provide adequate parking for workers so that they do not clog up local streets (maybe they could use the other floors of the new carpark!).
Name Withheld
Object
WEST RYDE , New South Wales
Message
The additional levels of the carpark SHOULD NOT receive DA approval. Reasons include:

Pedestrians walking along see st will have yet more obstacles with a higher volume of cars. The pedestrians will be some of the 3500 students <18 years old walking to school.

Heritage listed building and structures on See street, which have been lovingly restored and landscaped will be overshadowed. This will create cold homes and increase dampness. The heritage buildings cannot be altered or knocked down. The heritage needs to be preserved and the building need to be protected

The heritage building must not be dwarfed by ugly square boxes. It’s time to preserve heritage. The structure is within 100m of heritage so should abide by rules that other local house have to follow to be in keeping with heritage areas.

These extra levels were obviously planned prior to construction start. What is to stop another 5 storeys being added. The height cannot be increased from current DA approval

The non compliance of the construction has already negatively impacted residents. The negative mental health impacts from non-compliance is life threatening. Schools infrastructure and TAFE infrastructure have no respect for residents. State Significant Development does not translate to ‘stuff the residents’ although this has been the attitude from all involved.

See st and Constitution rd intersection is already a death trap. So many near accidents with commuters walking up Constitution rd. As the DA is also being updated to remove safety upgrades to local streets, this will result in accidents. When an accident occurs, this letter will be provided to those in the accident to show that local residents tried to put safety first.

Car park will only increase number of cars in already congested streets. Aim should be to minimise private cars and utilise already existing public transport. What other TAFEs have bus, train and ferry servicing the students.

TAFE must be treated like a ‘CBD site’ and minimise private transport.

The design of the TAFE building is world class architecture. This will now be dwarfed by an ugly square car park.

Having parking onsite does not make a TAFE more attractive. Public transport does and this requirement has been met.

The cost of using the car park will be prohibitive and the building will become an ugly white elephant. As confirmed by TAFE employees, the parking station will be sold off to a commercial parking station company and be out of reach for those who need parking.

See street is incorporated into the green pathway which is to encourage cycling and walking from Macquarie Park. Mix in the cars entering the car park will be dangerous, and defeat the purpose of the green pathway.

The streets surrounding TAFE will already be a carpark due to volume of cars. We don’t need another carpark!

Trees in schematic diagram do not represent reality and try to make design better than it is. Streets around TAFE have been raped of trees with no intention of planting new trees to complete landscaping. The trees will not be planted as they will run out of money.

If more parking is desired, place it in the planned bus station on the western side of Constitution Rd, ie where the pedestrian tunnel will end up. Keep the western side cars on that side to prevent eastern roads being impassable.
Name Withheld
Object
MEADOWBANK , New South Wales
Message
Strongly Object this Modification-2
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• Now with some details and plans of the mod-2 revealed, this modification is actually a doubling up of the number of car park spaces and not acceptable at all.



• There is really no need to waste taxpayers money on this modification; it will not solve the parking mess in the surrounding streets ( 2P Residential Parking Zone 8 ) as most students are not prepared to pay an even miserly $5 per entry for an all day parking spot.



• Traffic impact has not been adequately addressed. – The study is missing.



• As for the heritage impact. The (flawed) report is just a copy of the original version with significant short comings in regards to the heritage property under the name of Bartonville. - There is no nursing home in the street since many, many years, as the “Laurels” have ceased operations about 20 years ago.



• Also the shadow diagram shows how monstrous this eye soar is in the street during the winter months in particular.



• The location has also a short coming, as many students have to walk a couple of 100 meters to get to their course venue. - Humans don’t like to walk so much, so they will be avoiding the dedicated new car park.



• The whole modification-2 is anything but value for money. Heaps of demolition work is required to top up 2 more levels costing millions of taxpayers dollars.



Hidden Agenda ( ? )
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According to Grapevine ( … every rumor has some truth …) a future planned sell off of the new car park monster - once approved – to a private operator, is not only against the original approval, but simply a cash grab to fund other local Tafe infrastructure, which is not needed too. The ‘wines’ are a new tunnel for cyclists and pedestrians from the Western side of the tail tracks (West Ryde) to the old tafe campus sites and the new schools at Meadowbank…



Summary:
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We strongly object against this unnecessary modification.

Please withdraw this modification-2 .

We reserve the right to take legal action.
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Jimmy Gao
Object
Meadowbank , New South Wales
Message
To all the Guys in Planning, Education and Tafe Departments of NSW

Please lift your game and be honest and not deceptive -

Taxpayers in NSW are not as stupid as you may think!





Strongly Object this Modification-2



• Now with some details and plans of the mod-2 revealed, this modification is actually a doubling up of the number of car park spaces and not acceptable at all.



• There is really no need to waste taxpayers money on this modification; it will not solve the parking mess in the surrounding streets ( 2P Residential Parking Zone 8 ) as most students are not prepared to pay an even miserly $5 per entry for an all day parking spot.



• Traffic impact has not been adequately addressed. – The study is missing.



• As for the heritage impact. The (flawed) report is just a copy of the original version with significant short comings in regards to the heritage property under the name of Bartonville. - There is no nursing home in the street since many, many years, as the “Laurels” have ceased operations about 20 years ago.



• Also the shadow diagram shows how monstrous this eye soar is in the street during the winter months in particular.



• The location has also a short coming, as many students have to walk a couple of 100 meters to get to their course venue. - Humans don’t like to walk so much, so they will be avoiding the dedicated new car park.



• The whole modification-2 is anything but value for money. Heaps of demolition work is required to top up 2 more levels costing millions of taxpayers dollars.



Summary:


We strongly object against this unnecessary modification.

Please withdraw this modification-2 .

THANK YOU
City of Ryde
Comment
North Ryde , New South Wales
Message
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Project Details

Application Number
SSD-10349-Mod-2
Main Project
SSD-10349
Assessment Type
SSD Modifications
Development Type
Educational establishments
Local Government Areas
City of Ryde
Decision
Approved
Determination Date
Decider
Director

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Name
Manwella Hawell