Lindfield Learning Village

Hi Navdeep & Karen,

I am writing to you as an owner and resident of Dunstan Grove, to express my concerns with some aspects of the proposed planning for Lindfield Learning Village Stage 2.

Dunstan Grove is an extremely narrow and winding road, which has multiple blind spots with poor visibility at best, no marked crossings or adequate footpaths for pedestrians to safely walk or cross at and is completely unsuitable for the number of cars and buses necessary to cater for the projected 2,000 students.

Eton road where current infrastructure is built and traffic is funnelled is structurally well placed to handle vehicles as it is a straight road with a sufficient turning corner and more importantly fenced and newly paved footpaths which would not impact flowing traffic and or endanger pedestrians descending vehicles and buses, Dunstan grove on the other hand does not possess the same structure, with winding narrow roads with corners and multiple blind spots with 1 singular crossing and no fenced footpath.

I challenge state transit to run two business on the opposite side of the road at Dunstan grove on one of the corners without colliding with each other, as a resident I have witness a Coles home delivery truck and sedan almost colliding into each other at these corner due to the narrowness around the bends. The proposed increased traffic flow during the peak period when all residents are leaving to go to work or either taken their children to school would put even more pressure on the road than your projections.


I view the proposal in its current format as unsuitable and a risk to public safety, the School should revise their planning to enable all transport to be done from the existing road and car parks on the Eastern side of the school via Eton road which is already has the appropriate infrastructure for vehicles, buses, crossings and foot paths.

Additionally, with commencement of school operations this year, the increase in traffic has already shown that the local road and footpaths (where they exist) are inadequate and creating safety issues for all local residents especially around the single crossing on Dunstan grove.

I support the Committee’s objection to this plan and ask for your assistance to ensure this proposal is withdrawn, and more suitable, wider consideration is given to planning and accommodating the school within the community

I am very concerned about the development proposal of Lindfield Learning Village Stages 2 and 3. The plan to modify the existing access route for drop-off & pick-up of children from the eastern side of the school into Dunstan Grove.

The traffic report states that from 7.30am - 9.30am and 2.30pm - 5.00pm there will be 350 cars and 14 buses down Dunstan Grove in the morning, and it is likely the same number in the afternoons. I am sure these are conservative estimates.

My concerns are as follows:

 Vehicle Safety – Dunstan Grove is a very narrow road and was only built for very limited access. It is already very tight for cars to pass each other, with limited sight lines and there are already delays while cars park at the oval community centre. The increasing traffic will be devastating to us local residents and make it impossible for us to commute during school hours.

 Pedestrian Safety – The proposal also relies on 200 children walking to school as part of its traffic assessment. It claims that the there is a safe, continuous walkway from the school to Lindfield Public, but this is not the case. There are no pedestrian crossings and school children will be forced to cross the road unsafely in four situations.

 Noise impacts – The noise report only considers noise impact once the cars and buses are inside the school grounds. It gives no consideration to now bringing all the school traffic within 10 metres of our residential buildings. This will have a huge impact on our residents and has not been addressed at all. It is another reason why this proposed loop road should be rejected.

 Construction Impact – During the Phase 1 of construction, we had continuous issues with road blockages due to deliveries down Dunstan Grove and tradies parking to unload. This generated considerable noise (reversing beepers) as well as numerous delays in trying to get in or out of our property. The Construction Management Plan for Stage 2 and 3 now shows the main site access being directly at our driveway and buildings. We will experience more noise and impact from this site access than in stage 1. We urge this plan to be reconsidered as it has devastating impact on our normal daily commute.

▪ This proposal has been kept secret from local residents for 18 months and is now being rushed through during the Christmas period. There has not been adequate time allowed for proper consultation or time to understand the impacts of the proposal. The Department must not rush the planning process and give proper consideration of the community’s objections, particularly given the errors, misleading statements and inadequate assessment in the RTS submitted. We are extremely frustrated to be treated this way and felt this is violating our rights as local residents.

▪ Inconsistent and inadequate documentation – The RtS incorrectly states that no works are proposed in the E3 Environmental Management Zone. In fact, the Loop Road and various other works are proposed. There are also inconsistencies in the documentation that are unclear about who will be able to use the Loop Road. The Noise Report is unclear and doesn't properly identify which dwellings will be affected by noise.

Could you please take those concerns into consideration when processing the LLV Schools Infrastructure proposal?

To whom it may concern

As a resident of Dunstan Grove we lodge our objection to the proposed Lindfield Learning Village Stage 2 & 3 development.
We are supportive of the school however we are very concerned about the proposed plans for Stage 2 & 3 and the distinct lake of consideration given to the residents that adjoin the school. We are extremely disappointed that a heritage-listed and Sulman Medal-winning building is partially being demolished to accommodate a loop road for additional traffic flow as well as the removal of significant trees. The E3 zone was specifically drawn at the edge of the existing buildings so that the bushland setting of the heritage buildings could be maintained. The proposed Loop Road undermines this planning framework that set the community’s expectations for how this site would be developed in the future. Why wasn’t this part of that planning process?

Our concerns relate to but are not limited to:-

• Vehicle Safety
• Pedestrian Safety
• Safety of school children
• Volume of traffic
• Unnecessary road rage
• Lack of consideration to residents by the greater school community
• Lack of pathways and pedestrian crossings for residents who at peak times will not be able to cross the road from their residence, this is totally unacceptable.
Residents should not be caged.
• Construction disruption
• Noise pollution
• Inconsistent reporting
• Blatant disregard for the E3 Environmental Management Zone

We understand the NSW Government has allocated enormous funding for schools however this should not be at the disadvantage of residents and in particular in an area that was planned to ensure that the existing E3 zone along with the heritage listed buildings were not impacted.

We hope that are concerns are addressed when processing the LLV Schools Infrastructure proposal.

Re: Lindfield Learning Village Stage 2 and 3 Planning Application
Dear Mr Singh
I am writing to you to lodge my objection to the proposed Lindfield Learning Village Stages 2 and 3.
While I appreciate that the school is a valuable asset to the area, and am very supportive of it, I am, though, very concerned to learn of the plans to modify the existing access route for drop-off and pick-up of children from the eastern side of the school via Dunstan Grove.
The traffic report states that from 7.30am - 9.30am and 2.30pm - 5.00pm there will be 350 cars and 14 buses travelling down Dunstan Grove in the morning, and it is likely the same number in the afternoon, and I am sure these are conservative estimates especially during inclement weather when more parents are likely to drop off and pick up their children.

The report doesn’t state whether these numbers include teachers and staff vehicles arriving and departing, which may well be outside of the stated hours.
This equates to a car every 20 seconds and a bus every 8 minutes!
My concerns with this proposal are as follows:

• Vehicle Safety – Dunstan Grove is a very narrow and curved road and was only built for very limited access to the original UTS tennis courts and rear entry to the buildings. It is already very tight for cars to pass each other, with very limited sight lines and a lack of emergency run off, with one bend in the road right up against a rock cliff.

There are already delays while cars park at the oval community centre.
There is no assessment of how buses can fit down the road safely without crossing the white line and with traffic travelling in the opposite direction.
The fact that the proposal has the traffic going in an anti-clockwise direction means that traffic waiting to come out of the loop road at the current entrance will have to give way to the large amount of traffic entering the loop road, causing even more congestion.
I have personally been involved in some “near misses” while driving up the hill towards Eton Road with traffic cutting the corner and crossing the white line on their way down the hill. I am surprised that there hasn’t been an accident yet, but with the increased flow of traffic I am sure that this could become a common occurrence in the future.
There have also been some “near misses” with traffic turning right into Dunstan Grove while cutting the corner.
Schools Infrastructure has made no attempt to demonstrate investigation of alternatives to the proposed Loop Road. They have clearly chosen the cheapest and easiest option for themselves, at the expense of the Dunstan Grove community, of which there are around 500 residents, who will experience significant road and pedestrian safety issues and increased congestion.
Our Residents Committee has provided two alternative proposals that keep the traffic on the eastern side of the site (within the school boundary) which would remove these safety issues and I would like a commitment that these alternative proposals be further considered.

• Pedestrian Safety – Dunstan Grove residents, and school children for that matter, must cross Dunstan Grove to get to the school or bus stop. The current unmarked crossing is on a blind corner and is already very dangerous with the current light traffic.
This will become extremely more dangerous with the proposed increased traffic, and there is no consideration in the proposal about how this will be dealt with.
Similarly, there is no provision for a crossing at the school entrance and the current crossing there is not suitable for accessible use. Again, I would like the eastern alternatives to be further investigated and a full assessment done on them.
The proposal also relies on 200 children walking to school as part of its traffic assessment. It claims that there is a safe, continuous walkway from the Lindfield Learning Village to Lindfield Public School, but this is not the case. There are no pedestrian crossings along the route and school children will be forced to cross the road unsafely in four situations. There are also sections where the footpath is not compliant, with no space for children, cyclists and other footpath users to safely pass and pedestrians and cyclists are forced to use the roads.
Additionally, there is no footpath along Eton Road to and from Roseville Station and children will be forced to walk on the road and having to tend with the buses and cars accessing the school and commuters using Eton Road to gain access to Lady Game Drive by avoiding the traffic lights at the top of Grosvenor Road, the school zone and the roundabouts on Grosvenor Road itself.
Grosvenor Road and Eton Road are now major thoroughfares linking the Pacific Highway with Lady Game Drive, and subsequently North Ryde and Macquarie Park and the M2 with access to the city and outer suburbs, when they would have been originally designed as residential roads with limited traffic.
I want to see the footpaths and pedestrian crossings to be properly installed to ensure the safety of school children and residents alike before the additional increased traffic commences.

• Exhaust Fume Impacts – With the number of additional vehicles using Dunstan Grove to access the school there is bound to be some back up, and those idling buses and cars will be pumping out exhaust fumes that will severely impact the Dunstan Grove residents, especially for those with young children and those with respiratory problems.
We experienced this during the Phase 1 construction and it is an ongoing problem with delivery vehicles and taxis, but this is minor when compared to the additional traffic that the loop road proposal will provide.

• Noise Impacts – The noise report only considers noise impact once the cars and buses are inside the school grounds. It gives no consideration to bringing all the school traffic within 10 metres of our residential buildings. This will have a huge impact on our residents and has not been addressed at all.
It is another reason why this proposed loop road should be rejected.

• Construction Impact – During the Phase 1 of construction, we had continuous issues with road blockages due to deliveries down Dunstan Grove and trades people parking to unload. This generated considerable noise (reversing beepers) as well as numerous delays in trying to get in or out of our property, and this was when the main access was at the front of the school!
The Construction Management Plan for Stage 2 and 3 now shows the main site access being directly at our driveway and buildings. We will experience more noise and impact from this site access than in stage 1.
There is no reason for it to be here, when access can be provided to the site from the existing roads on the eastern side.
I want this plan changed to enforce access from the eastern side of the school. This was also requested by our Owners Committee and ignored.

Further to my points above, I am also concerned that:

• A heritage-listed and Sulman Medal-winning building is being partially demolished to accommodate the loop road proposed, as well as the removal of significant trees. The E3 zone was specifically drawn at the edge of the existing buildings so that the bushland setting of the heritage buildings could be maintained. The proposed Loop Road undermines this planning framework that set the community’s expectations for how this site would be developed in the future.

• This proposal has been kept secret from local residents for 18 months and is now being rushed through during the Christmas period. There has not been adequate time allowed for proper consultation, or time to understand the impacts of the proposal.
The Department must not rush the planning process and must give proper consideration of the community’s objections, particularly given the errors, misleading statements and inadequate assessment in the RTS submitted.

• Inconsistent and inadequate documentation – The RTS incorrectly states that no works are proposed in the E3 Environmental Management Zone, when in fact the Loop Road and various other works are proposed. There are also inconsistencies in the documentation that are unclear about who will be able to use the Loop Road. The Noise Report is unclear and doesn't properly identify which dwellings will be affected by noise.

Conclusion
I feel that not enough thought and consideration as outlined above was given to the original proposal of turning the UTS site into a school to accommodate the proposed number of children, teacher and staff along with the traffic and parking that this would involve.
I also feel that there is an attempt to railroad through the Phase 2 and 3 proposals at a time when people have other things on their minds, e.g. Christmas the holiday season and travel, giving very little time for the Dunstan Grove residents, who are the main people this proposal will impact, sufficient time to respond in a timely and effective manner.

I therefore strongly object to the proposal for the Loop Road using Dunstan Grove as a traffic access to the Lindfield Learning Village.
I trust that you will take my concerns and objections into consideration when processing the Lindfield Learning Village Stages 2 and 3 Infrastructure proposal.

I am writing to you to lodge my objection to the proposed Lindfield Learning Village Stages 2 and 3.
While I am very supportive of the school, I am very concerned to learn that it is planned to modify the existing access route for drop-off & pick-up of children from the eastern side of the school into Dunstan Grove.

The traffic report states that from 7.30am - 9.30am and 2.30pm - 5.00pm there will be 350 cars and 14 buses down Dunstan Grove in the morning, and it is likely the same number in the afternoons. I am sure these are conservative estimates.

This equates to a car every 20 seconds and a bus every 8 minutes!

My concerns about this are as follows:

• Vehicle Safety – Dunstan Grove is a very narrow and curved road and was only built for very limited access. It is already very tight for cars to pass each other, with limited sight lines and there are already delays while cars park at the oval community centre. There is no assessment of how buses can fit down the road safely with traffic travelling in the opposite direction. Schools Infrastructure has made no attempt to demonstrate investigation of alternatives to the proposed Loop Road. They have clearly chosen the cheapest and easiest option for themselves, at the expense of the Dunstan Grove community, who will experience significant road and safety issues and increased congestion. Our Committee has provided 2 alternative proposals that keep the traffic on the eastern side of the site (within the school boundary) which would remove these safety issues. I want these to be further considered.

• Pedestrian Safety – Dunstan Grove residents and school children must cross Dunstan Grove to get to the school or bus stop. The current unmarked crossing is on a blind corner and is already very dangerous with the current light traffic. This will become extremely dangerous with the proposed increased traffic. There is no consideration in the proposal about how this will be dealt with. Similarly, there is no provision for a crossing at the school entry and the current crossing there is not suitable for accessible use. Again, I want the eastern alternatives to be further considered.

The proposal also relies on 200 children walking to school as part of its traffic assessment. It claims that the there is a safe, continuous walkway from the school to Lindfield Public, but this is not the case. There are no pedestrian crossings and school children will be forced to cross the road unsafely in four situations. There are also sections where the footpath is not compliant with no space for children, cyclists and other footpath users to safely pass (people are forced to use the roads) Additionally, there is no footpath to Roseville Station and children will be forced to walk on the road with the buses. I want the footpaths and pedestrian crossings to be properly installed to ensure the safely of school children and residents before the additional increased traffic commences.

• Noise impacts – The noise report only considers noise impact once the cars and buses are inside the school grounds. It gives no consideration to now bringing all the school traffic within 10 metres of our residential buildings. This will have a huge impact on our residents and has not been addressed at all. It is another reason why this proposed loop road should be rejected.

• Construction Impact – During the Phase 1 of construction, we had continuous issues with road blockages due to deliveries down Dunstan Grove and trades people parking to unload. This generated considerable noise (reversing beepers) as well as numerous delays in trying to get in or out of our property, and this was when the main access was at the front of the school! The Construction Management Plan for Stage 2 and 3 now shows the main site access being directly at our driveway and buildings. We will experience more noise and impact from this site access than in stage 1. There is no reason for it to be here, when they can access the site from the existing roads on the eastern side. I want this plan changed to enforce access from the eastern side of the school. This was also requested by our Owners Committee and ignored.

Further to my points above I am also concerned that

 A heritage-listed and Sulman Medal-winning building is partially being demolished to accommodate the loop road proposed as well as the removal of significant trees. The E3 zone was specifically drawn at the edge of the existing buildings so that the bushland setting of the heritage buildings could be maintained. The proposed Loop Road undermines this planning framework that set the community’s expectations for how this site would be developed in the future.

 This proposal has been kept secret from local residents for 18 months and is now being rushed through during the Christmas period. There has not been adequate time allowed for proper consultation or time to understand the impacts of the proposal. The Department must not rush the planning process and give proper consideration of the community’s objections, particularly given the errors, misleading statements and inadequate assessment in the RTS submitted.


 Inconsistent and inadequate documentation – The RtS incorrectly states that no works are proposed in the E3 Environmental Management Zone, when in fact the Loop Road and various other works are proposed. There are also inconsistencies in the documentation that are unclear about who will be able to use the Loop Road. The Noise Report is unclear and doesn't properly identify which dwellings will be affected by noise.

I hope that you take my concerns into consideration when processing the LLV Schools Infrastructure proposal.

I am writing to you to lodge my objection to the proposed Lindfield Learning Village Stages 2 and 3.
While I am very supportive of the school, I am very concerned to learn that it is planned to modify the existing access route for drop-off & pick-up of children from the eastern side of the school into Dunstan Grove.
The traffic report states that from 7.30am - 9.30am and 2.30pm - 5.00pm there will be 350 cars and 14 buses down Dunstan Grove in the morning, and it is likely the same number in the afternoons. I am sure these are conservative estimates.

This equates to a car every 20 seconds and a bus every 8 minutes!

My concerns about this are as follows:

• Vehicle Safety – Dunstan Grove is a very narrow and curved road and was only built for very limited access. It is already very tight for cars to pass each other, with limited sight lines and there are already delays while cars park at the oval community centre. There is no assessment of how buses can fit down the road safely with traffic travelling in the opposite direction. Schools Infrastructure has made no attempt to demonstrate investigation of alternatives to the proposed Loop Road. They have clearly chosen the cheapest and easiest option for themselves, at the expense of the Dunstan Grove community, who will experience significant road and safety issues and increased congestion. Our Committee has provided 2 alternative proposals that keep the traffic on the eastern side of the site (within the school boundary) which would remove these safety issues. I want these to be further considered.

• Pedestrian Safety – Dunstan Grove residents and school children must cross Dunstan Grove to get to the school or bus stop. The current unmarked crossing is on a blind corner and is already very dangerous with the current light traffic. This will become extremely dangerous with the proposed increased traffic. There is no consideration in the proposal about how this will be dealt with. Similarly, there is no provision for a crossing at the school entry and the current crossing there is not suitable for accessible use. Again, I want the eastern alternatives to be further considered.

The proposal also relies on 200 children walking to school as part of its traffic assessment. It claims that the there is a safe, continuous walkway from the school to Lindfield Public, but this is not the case. There are no pedestrian crossings and school children will be forced to cross the road unsafely in four situations. There are also sections where the footpath is not compliant with no space for children, cyclists and other footpath users to safely pass (people are forced to use the roads) Additionally, there is no footpath to Roseville Station and children will be forced to walk on the road with the buses. I want the footpaths and pedestrian crossings to be properly installed to ensure the safely of school children and residents before the additional increased traffic commences.

• Noise impacts – The noise report only considers noise impact once the cars and buses are inside the school grounds. It gives no consideration to now bringing all the school traffic within 10 metres of our residential buildings. This will have a huge impact on our residents and has not been addressed at all. It is another reason why this proposed loop road should be rejected.

• Construction Impact – During the Phase 1 of construction, we had continuous issues with road blockages due to deliveries down Dunstan Grove and trades people parking to unload. This generated considerable noise (reversing beepers) as well as numerous delays in trying to get in or out of our property, and this was when the main access was at the front of the school! The Construction Management Plan for Stage 2 and 3 now shows the main site access being directly at our driveway and buildings. We will experience more noise and impact from this site access than in stage 1. There is no reason for it to be here, when they can access the site from the existing roads on the eastern side. I want this plan changed to enforce access from the eastern side of the school. This was also requested by our Owners Committee and ignored.

Further to my points above I am also concerned that

 A heritage-listed and Sulman Medal-winning building is partially being demolished to accommodate the loop road proposed as well as the removal of significant trees. The E3 zone was specifically drawn at the edge of the existing buildings so that the bushland setting of the heritage buildings could be maintained. The proposed Loop Road undermines this planning framework that set the community’s expectations for how this site would be developed in the future.

 This proposal has been kept secret from local residents for 18 months and is now being rushed through during the Christmas period. There has not been adequate time allowed for proper consultation or time to understand the impacts of the proposal. The Department must not rush the planning process and give proper consideration of the community’s objections, particularly given the errors, misleading statements and inadequate assessment in the RTS submitted.


 Inconsistent and inadequate documentation – The RtS incorrectly states that no works are proposed in the E3 Environmental Management Zone, when in fact the Loop Road and various other works are proposed. There are also inconsistencies in the documentation that are unclear about who will be able to use the Loop Road. The Noise Report is unclear and doesn't properly identify which dwellings will be affected by noise.

I hope that you take my concerns into consideration when processing the LLV Schools Infrastructure proposal.

I am writing to you to lodge my objection to the proposed Lindfield Learning Village Stages 2 and 3.
While I am very supportive of the school, I am very concerned to learn that it is planned to modify the existing access route for drop-off & pick-up of children from the eastern side of the school into Dunstan Grove.

The traffic report states that from 7.30am - 9.30am and 2.30pm - 5.00pm there will be 350 cars and 14 buses down Dunstan Grove in the morning, and it is likely the same number in the afternoons. I am sure these are conservative estimates.

This equates to a car every 20 seconds and a bus every 8 minutes!

My concerns about this are as follows:

• Vehicle Safety – Dunstan Grove is a very narrow and curved road and was only built for very limited access. It is already very tight for cars to pass each other, with limited sight lines and there are already delays while cars park at the oval community centre. There is no assessment of how buses can fit down the road safely with traffic travelling in the opposite direction. Schools Infrastructure has made no attempt to demonstrate investigation of alternatives to the proposed Loop Road. They have clearly chosen the cheapest and easiest option for themselves, at the expense of the Dunstan Grove community, who will experience significant road and safety issues and increased congestion. Our Committee has provided 2 alternative proposals that keep the traffic on the eastern side of the site (within the school boundary) which would remove these safety issues. I want these to be further considered.

• Pedestrian Safety – Dunstan Grove residents and school children must cross Dunstan Grove to get to the school or bus stop. The current unmarked crossing is on a blind corner and is already very dangerous with the current light traffic. This will become extremely dangerous with the proposed increased traffic. There is no consideration in the proposal about how this will be dealt with. Similarly, there is no provision for a crossing at the school entry and the current crossing there is not suitable for accessible use. Again, I want the eastern alternatives to be further considered.

The proposal also relies on 200 children walking to school as part of its traffic assessment. It claims that the there is a safe, continuous walkway from the school to Lindfield Public, but this is not the case. There are no pedestrian crossings and school children will be forced to cross the road unsafely in four situations. There are also sections where the footpath is not compliant with no space for children, cyclists and other footpath users to safely pass (people are forced to use the roads) Additionally, there is no footpath to Roseville Station and children will be forced to walk on the road with the buses. I want the footpaths and pedestrian crossings to be properly installed to ensure the safely of school children and residents before the additional increased traffic commences.

• Noise impacts – The noise report only considers noise impact once the cars and buses are inside the school grounds. It gives no consideration to now bringing all the school traffic within 10 metres of our residential buildings. This will have a huge impact on our residents and has not been addressed at all. It is another reason why this proposed loop road should be rejected.

• Construction Impact – During the Phase 1 of construction, we had continuous issues with road blockages due to deliveries down Dunstan Grove and trades people parking to unload. This generated considerable noise (reversing beepers) as well as numerous delays in trying to get in or out of our property, and this was when the main access was at the front of the school! The Construction Management Plan for Stage 2 and 3 now shows the main site access being directly at our driveway and buildings. We will experience more noise and impact from this site access than in stage 1. There is no reason for it to be here, when they can access the site from the existing roads on the eastern side. I want this plan changed to enforce access from the eastern side of the school. This was also requested by our Owners Committee and ignored.

Further to my points above I am also concerned that

 A heritage-listed and Sulman Medal-winning building is partially being demolished to accommodate the loop road proposed as well as the removal of significant trees. The E3 zone was specifically drawn at the edge of the existing buildings so that the bushland setting of the heritage buildings could be maintained. The proposed Loop Road undermines this planning framework that set the community’s expectations for how this site would be developed in the future.

 This proposal has been kept secret from local residents for 18 months and is now being rushed through during the Christmas period. There has not been adequate time allowed for proper consultation or time to understand the impacts of the proposal. The Department must not rush the planning process and give proper consideration of the community’s objections, particularly given the errors, misleading statements and inadequate assessment in the RTS submitted.


 Inconsistent and inadequate documentation – The RtS incorrectly states that no works are proposed in the E3 Environmental Management Zone, when in fact the Loop Road and various other works are proposed. There are also inconsistencies in the documentation that are unclear about who will be able to use the Loop Road. The Noise Report is unclear and doesn't properly identify which dwellings will be affected by noise.

I hope that you take my concerns into consideration when processing the LLV Schools Infrastructure proposal.

I am writing to you to lodge my objection to the proposed Lindfield Learning Village Stages 2 and 3.

While I am very supportive of the school, I am very concerned to learn that it is planned to modify the existing access route for drop-off & pick-up of children from the eastern side of the school into Dunstan Grove.

The traffic report states that from 7.30am - 9.30am and 2.30pm - 5.00pm there will be 350 cars and 14 buses down Dunstan Grove in the morning, and it is likely the same number in the afternoons. I am sure these are conservative estimates.

This equates to a car every 20 seconds and a bus every 8 minutes!

My concerns about this are as follows:

• Vehicle Safety – Dunstan Grove is a very narrow and curved road and was only built for very limited access. It is already very tight for cars to pass each other, with limited sight lines and there are already delays while cars park at the oval community centre. There is no assessment of how buses can fit down the road safely with traffic travelling in the opposite direction. Schools Infrastructure has made no attempt to demonstrate investigation of alternatives to the proposed Loop Road. They have clearly chosen the cheapest and easiest option for themselves, at the expense of the Dunstan Grove community, who will experience significant road and safety issues and increased congestion. Our Committee has provided 2 alternative proposals that keep the traffic on the eastern side of the site (within the school boundary) which would remove these safety issues. I want these to be further considered.

• Pedestrian Safety – Dunstan Grove residents and school children must cross Dunstan Grove to get to the school or bus stop. The current unmarked crossing is on a blind corner and is already very dangerous with the current light traffic. This will become extremely dangerous with the proposed increased traffic. There is no consideration in the proposal about how this will be dealt with. Similarly, there is no provision for a crossing at the school entry and the current crossing there is not suitable for accessible use. Again, I want the eastern alternatives to be further considered.

The proposal also relies on 200 children walking to school as part of its traffic assessment. It claims that the there is a safe, continuous walkway from the school to Lindfield Public, but this is not the case. There are no pedestrian crossings and school children will be forced to cross the road unsafely in four situations. There are also sections where the footpath is not compliant with no space for children, cyclists and other footpath users to safely pass (people are forced to use the roads) Additionally, there is no footpath to Roseville Station and children will be forced to walk on the road with the buses. I want the footpaths and pedestrian crossings to be properly installed to ensure the safely of school children and residents before the additional increased traffic commences.

• Noise impacts – The noise report only considers noise impact once the cars and buses are inside the school grounds. It gives no consideration to now bringing all the school traffic within 10 metres of our residential buildings. This will have a huge impact on our residents and has not been addressed at all. It is another reason why this proposed loop road should be rejected.

• Construction Impact – During the Phase 1 of construction, we had continuous issues with road blockages due to deliveries down Dunstan Grove and trades people parking to unload. This generated considerable noise (reversing beepers) as well as numerous delays in trying to get in or out of our property, and this was when the main access was at the front of the school! The Construction Management Plan for Stage 2 and 3 now shows the main site access being directly at our driveway and buildings. We will experience more noise and impact from this site access than in stage 1. There is no reason for it to be here, when they can access the site from the existing roads on the eastern side. I want this plan changed to enforce access from the eastern side of the school. This was also requested by our Owners Committee and ignored.

Further to my points above I am also concerned that

 A heritage-listed and Sulman Medal-winning building is partially being demolished to accommodate the loop road proposed as well as the removal of significant trees. The E3 zone was specifically drawn at the edge of the existing buildings so that the bushland setting of the heritage buildings could be maintained. The proposed Loop Road undermines this planning framework that set the community’s expectations for how this site would be developed in the future.

 This proposal has been kept secret from local residents for 18 months and is now being rushed through during the Christmas period. There has not been adequate time allowed for proper consultation or time to understand the impacts of the proposal. The Department must not rush the planning process and give proper consideration of the community’s objections, particularly given the errors, misleading statements and inadequate assessment in the RTS submitted.


 Inconsistent and inadequate documentation – The RtS incorrectly states that no works are proposed in the E3 Environmental Management Zone, when in fact the Loop Road and various other works are proposed. There are also inconsistencies in the documentation that are unclear about who will be able to use the Loop Road. The Noise Report is unclear and doesn't properly identify which dwellings will be affected by noise.

I hope that you take my concerns into consideration when processing the LLV Schools Infrastructure proposal.

Dear Sir & Madam,

This letter serves the purpose of lodging my objection in regard to the proposed Lindfiled Learning Village (LLV) Stage 2 and 3.

Please note that I do not want my personal information released.

My objection is based on the concerns as follows:

1. Road Safety Concerns: passing the roundabout, the driveway becomes very narrow and there is blind spot. There are number of incidents happened to me and my wife when driving towards oval community centre. Cars recklessly driving from the opposite without reducing speed almost hit my car due to the blind spot. I was lucky there is no crash because I drive extremely slow knowing that place is so easy to cause accident. I can’t imagine with hundreds of cars and buses driving on this road every day, how the traffic can be maintained in a reasonable manner and how drivers as well as pedestrians’ safety can be assured.

2. Pedestrian Safety concerns: for all Dunstan Grove residents walking to bus or school or anywhere from Dunstan Grove, they have to cross on a blind corner. With the current light traffic, it’s already very dangerous. Surely it will be more dangerous with increased traffic. No consideration addressed in the proposal on how this issue could be resolved.

3. Impact on Dunstan Grove Residents: being a resident living at Dunstan Grove for more than 3 years, I drive on daily basis. Every time when drive out from car park towards to the roundabout, I have to be very careful as the road is very narrow. If there is a car coming from the opposite, both drivers have to drive slowly. In terms of the proposed Loop Road, it is very easy to be missed out of the loop entrance. For those who missed the loop entrance, then they will have no choice but drive towards our car park and then make U-turn at the car park gate. I could imagine there will be a chaos during the pick hours and Dunstan Grove residents will be heavily impacted by the foreseeable terrible traffic condition.

4. Issues with construction: During the Phase one, it already had significant impact on us as we on daily basis had to wait at the roundabout due to road blockage. We had to leave from home at least 10-15 minutes earlier in order to avoid being late at work or school. When the main site access moved to near our driveway and buildings, I don’t know how much earlier we have to get up, half hour? One hour?

5. No sufficient time and information provided to us and rushing to finalize the proposal during Christmas period.

6. Documents are inconsistent and inadequate: It was incorrectly stated by Rts that no works are proposed in the E3 Environmental Management Zone, when in fact the Loop Road and various other works are proposed.

I sincerely wish you could carefully consider our concerns when processing LLV schools infrastructure proposal. While we are truly excited about the growth of the new school, our rights and interest as residents shall be looked after as well.

Regards,

Further to my phone call this morning, I would like to submit my objection to the proposed Lindfield Learning Village Stages 2 and 3. I have not been able to lodge this sooner as I could not access the Portal, and believe that the closing should be extended to enable all concerned to lodge their comments.

While I support the school, I am extremely concerned that their new plans change the current route for drop-off & pick-up of children from the eastern side of the school into Dunstan Grove. This has never previously been discussed or mentioned.

The proposed loop road has obviously been developed by Schools Infrastructure over the last 12 months but withheld from local residents despite opportunities to consult. Now after 12 months of operation we are being made aware what their plans are. It is being rushed through during the Christmas period not allowing any time for proper consideration. I would ask that the Department not rush the planning process and allow proper consideration of the community’s objections, particularly given the errors, misleading statements and inadequate assessment in the RTS documents submitted in this application.

The traffic report states that from 7.30am - 9.30am and 2.30pm - 5.00pm (which are not the current NSW state school zone hours) there will be 350 cars and 14 buses coming down Dunstan Grove in the morning and in the afternoons. I believe that these numbers are not truly honest about what the true numbers will be. It doesn’t include any car travel by students from Y10-12, and assumes all buses run at full capacity. This equates to a car every 20 seconds and a bus every 8 minutes!

Whilst I have a number of concerns the main ones are as follows:

• There are a number of critical safety issues around the narrowness and curved nature of road that has a number of blind corners, and cars already have difficulty passing each other.

• There has been no assessment provided on how these buses will actually fit and travel down the road safely. In addition, Schools Infrastructure has not investigated other means of access to the school other than this proposed loop road. It is my understanding that the Owners Committee has provided Schools Infrastructure with alternative proposals – but these have been dismissed and ignored.

• Dunstan Grove will experience increased congestion and safety issues. I would like alternative proposals investigated by Schools Infrastructure that keeps this traffic within the school boundaries.

• I object to a loop road. There has not been any assessment of how these buses will safely travel down Dunstan Grove against the flow of traffic from residents travelling up the road against this traffic (14 buses and 350 cars).

• Pedestrian safety has not been taken into account with Dunstan Grove residents and school children having to cross Dunstan Grove to get access to the school or bus stop. There is an unmarked crossing on a blind corner that is already very dangerous with the current traffic that occurs on Dunstan Grove. With this proposed increased traffic the road will become extremely dangerous for pedestrians and this has not been mentioned in any of the reports. Additionally, there is no current consideration in the proposal with regards the safety of pedestrians who use the road.

The traffic assessment proposes that there will be approximately 200 children walking to LLV school and states that there is a safe and continuous walkway from the school to Lindfield Public, but this is not the case. There are no pedestrian crossings and school children will and are currently forced to cross the road unsafely in four situations (as are the local residents). Some parts of these footpaths force people, including children, and cyclist to have to travel on the roads. Roseville Station (where it is proposed some children will travel from) has no footpath that will mean children will have to navigate walking on the road with the huge increase in traffic making this extremely dangerous and unsafe. I would like to see safe access through the provision of footpaths as well as pedestrian crossings.

• Noise reports consider only the noise impact of cars and buses when inside the school grounds. It does not mention the huge impact the noise of this increased traffic will bring. Residential buildings are close to the road (within 10 metres) and this has not been considered or mentioned in any of the reports provided. Some of the residential once the cars and buses are inside the school grounds. The proposed loop road will have significant impact on residents and another reason that I object to this loop road.

• The Construction Management plan for Stage 2 and 3 states that the main entrance will be opposite the Dunstan Grove roundabout at the only driveway to resident parking. There were road blockages, continuous deliveries, noise and rude contractors that we endured for 7 months during Stage 1 (all in the name of the provision of the school which we support). This main construction access point should be on the eastern side of the school, which would not impact on Dunstan Grove traffic and safety – again, I believe this was requested by the Owners Committee and has again been ignored. I would ask that Schools Infrastructure consider this alternative.

• School numbers. If the school feels that they cannot accommodate the forecast 2100 students in the current pick up/drop off arrangement, I would ask that the approved numbers of students be reduced until a safe and satisfactory arrangement can be made.


I am asking that the Planning Department consider this submission carefully as safety is of genuine concern here.

I also understand that the Dunstan Grove Owners Committee will be making a more detailed submission, and I confirm that I support their submission.

Regards,

I am writing to you to lodge my objection to the proposed Lindfield Learning Village Stages 2 and 3.

I do not want my personal information released

While I am very supportive of the school, I am very concerned to learn that it is planned to modify the existing access route for drop-off & pick-up of children from the eastern side of the school into Dunstan Grove.

The traffic report states that from 7.30am - 9.30am and 2.30pm - 5.00pm there will be 350 cars and 14 buses down Dunstan Grove in the morning, and it is likely the same number in the afternoons. I am sure these are conservative estimates.

This equates to a car every 20 seconds and a bus every 8 minutes!

My concerns about this are as follows:

• Pedestrian Safety – Dunstan Grove residents and school children must cross Dunstan Grove to get to the school or bus stop. The current unmarked crossing is on a blind corner and is already very dangerous with the current light traffic. This will become extremely dangerous with the proposed increased traffic. There is no consideration in the proposal about how this will be dealt with. Similarly, there is no provision for a crossing at the school entry and the current crossing there is not suitable for accessible use. Again, I want the eastern alternatives to be further considered.

The proposal also relies on 200 children walking to school as part of its traffic assessment. It claims that the there is a safe, continuous walkway from the school to Lindfield Public, but this is not the case. There are no pedestrian crossings and school children will be forced to cross the road unsafely in four situations. There are also sections where the footpath is not compliant with no space for children, cyclists and other footpath users to safely pass (people are forced to use the roads) Additionally, there is no footpath to Roseville Station and children will be forced to walk on the road with the buses. I want the footpaths and pedestrian crossings to be properly installed to ensure the safely of school children and residents before the additional increased traffic commences.

• Vehicle Safety – Dunstan Grove is a very narrow and curved road and was only built for very limited access. It is already very tight for cars to pass each other, with limited sight lines and there are already delays while cars park at the oval community centre. There is no assessment of how buses can fit down the road safely with traffic travelling in the opposite direction. Schools Infrastructure has made no attempt to demonstrate investigation of alternatives to the proposed Loop Road. They have clearly chosen the cheapest and easiest option for themselves, at the expense of the Dunstan Grove community, who will experience significant road and safety issues and increased congestion. Our Committee has provided 2 alternative proposals that keep the traffic on the eastern side of the site (within the school boundary) which would remove these safety issues. I want these to be further considered.



• Construction Impact – During the Phase 1 of construction, we had continuous issues with road blockages due to deliveries down Dunstan Grove and trades people parking to unload. This generated considerable noise (reversing beepers) as well as numerous delays in trying to get in or out of our property, and this was when the main access was at the front of the school! The Construction Management Plan for Stage 2 and 3 now shows the main site access being directly at our driveway and buildings. We will experience more noise and impact from this site access than in stage 1. There is no reason for it to be here, when they can access the site from the existing roads on the eastern side. I want this plan changed to enforce access from the eastern side of the school. This was also requested by our Owners Committee and ignored.

• Noise impacts – The noise report only considers noise impact once the cars and buses are inside the school grounds. It gives no consideration to now bringing all the school traffic within 10 metres of our residential buildings. This will have a huge impact on our residents and has not been addressed at all. It is another reason why this proposed loop road should be rejected.


Further to my points above I am also concerned that

 A heritage-listed and Sulman Medal-winning building is partially being demolished to accommodate the loop road proposed as well as the removal of significant trees. The E3 zone was specifically drawn at the edge of the existing buildings so that the bushland setting of the heritage buildings could be maintained. The proposed Loop Road undermines this planning framework that set the community’s expectations for how this site would be developed in the future.

 This proposal has been kept secret from local residents for 18 months and is now being rushed through during the Christmas period. There has not been adequate time allowed for proper consultation or time to understand the impacts of the proposal. The Department must not rush the planning process and give proper consideration of the community’s objections, particularly given the errors, misleading statements and inadequate assessment in the RTS submitted.


 Inconsistent and inadequate documentation – The RtS incorrectly states that no works are proposed in the E3 Environmental Management Zone, when in fact the Loop Road and various other works are proposed. There are also inconsistencies in the documentation that are unclear about who will be able to use the Loop Road. The Noise Report is unclear and doesn't properly identify which dwellings will be affected by noise.


I hope that you take my concerns into consideration when processing the LLV Schools Infrastructure proposal. Other options can be used to solve the traffic problems for Lindfield Learning Village, such as increase a train station of Crimson Hill, Epping to Chatswood rail link passes the underground of Crimson Hill.


Regards.

I am writing to you to lodge my objection to the proposed Lindfield Learning Village Stages 2 and 3.

I do not want my personal information released

While I am very supportive of the school, I am very concerned to learn that it is planned to modify the existing access route for drop-off & pick-up of children from the eastern side of the school into Dunstan Grove.

The traffic report states that from 7.30am - 9.30am and 2.30pm - 5.00pm there will be 350 cars and 14 buses down Dunstan Grove in the morning, and it is likely the same number in the afternoons. I am sure these are conservative estimates.

This equates to a car every 20 seconds and a bus every 8 minutes!

My concerns about this are as follows:



• Pedestrian Safety – Dunstan Grove residents and school children must cross Dunstan Grove to get to the school or bus stop. The current unmarked crossing is on a blind corner and is already very dangerous with the current light traffic. This will become extremely dangerous with the proposed increased traffic. There is no consideration in the proposal about how this will be dealt with. Similarly, there is no provision for a crossing at the school entry and the current crossing there is not suitable for accessible use. Again, I want the eastern alternatives to be further considered.

The proposal also relies on 200 children walking to school as part of its traffic assessment. It claims that the there is a safe, continuous walkway from the school to Lindfield Public, but this is not the case. There are no pedestrian crossings and school children will be forced to cross the road unsafely in four situations. There are also sections where the footpath is not compliant with no space for children, cyclists and other footpath users to safely pass (people are forced to use the roads) Additionally, there is no footpath to Roseville Station and children will be forced to walk on the road with the buses. I want the footpaths and pedestrian crossings to be properly installed to ensure the safely of school children and residents before the additional increased traffic commences.

• Vehicle Safety – Dunstan Grove is a very narrow and curved road and was only built for very limited access. It is already very tight for cars to pass each other, with limited sight lines and there are already delays while cars park at the oval community centre. There is no assessment of how buses can fit down the road safely with traffic travelling in the opposite direction. Schools Infrastructure has made no attempt to demonstrate investigation of alternatives to the proposed Loop Road. They have clearly chosen the cheapest and easiest option for themselves, at the expense of the Dunstan Grove community, who will experience significant road and safety issues and increased congestion. Our Committee has provided 2 alternative proposals that keep the traffic on the eastern side of the site (within the school boundary) which would remove these safety issues. I want these to be further considered.


• Noise impacts – The noise report only considers noise impact once the cars and buses are inside the school grounds. It gives no consideration to now bringing all the school traffic within 10 metres of our residential buildings. This will have a huge impact on our residents and has not been addressed at all. It is another reason why this proposed loop road should be rejected.

• Construction Impact – During the Phase 1 of construction, we had continuous issues with road blockages due to deliveries down Dunstan Grove and trades people parking to unload. This generated considerable noise (reversing beepers) as well as numerous delays in trying to get in or out of our property, and this was when the main access was at the front of the school! The Construction Management Plan for Stage 2 and 3 now shows the main site access being directly at our driveway and buildings. We will experience more noise and impact from this site access than in stage 1. There is no reason for it to be here, when they can access the site from the existing roads on the eastern side. I want this plan changed to enforce access from the eastern side of the school. This was also requested by our Owners Committee and ignored.



Further to my points above I am also concerned that

 A heritage-listed and Sulman Medal-winning building is partially being demolished to accommodate the loop road proposed as well as the removal of significant trees. The E3 zone was specifically drawn at the edge of the existing buildings so that the bushland setting of the heritage buildings could be maintained. The proposed Loop Road undermines this planning framework that set the community’s expectations for how this site would be developed in the future.

 This proposal has been kept secret from local residents for 18 months and is now being rushed through during the Christmas period. There has not been adequate time allowed for proper consultation or time to understand the impacts of the proposal. The Department must not rush the planning process and give proper consideration of the community’s objections, particularly given the errors, misleading statements and inadequate assessment in the RTS submitted.


 Inconsistent and inadequate documentation – The RtS incorrectly states that no works are proposed in the E3 Environmental Management Zone, when in fact the Loop Road and various other works are proposed. There are also inconsistencies in the documentation that are unclear about who will be able to use the Loop Road. The Noise Report is unclear and doesn't properly identify which dwellings will be affected by noise.


I hope that you take my concerns into consideration when processing the LLV Schools Infrastructure proposal. Other options can be used to solve the traffic problems for Lindfield Learning Village, such as increase a train station of Crimson Hill, Epping to Chatswood rail link passes the underground of Crimson Hill.


Regards.

As a resident of Dunstan Grove I wish to make known my OBJECTION to the proposed development of the Loop Road around the Lindfield Learning Village and alongside Dunstan Grove.
I am writing to you to lodge my objection to the proposed Lindfield Learning Village Stages 2 and 3.
(I do not want my personal information released)
As a teacher, I am supportive of the school, however, I am extremely concerned about several issues:

1. SAFETY of children as well as the public and also the residents of Crimson Hill. At present there is an issue with this, and, with the proposed development of the Loop Road, with an extra 1500 students plus extra parents (approx. 1500 and 3000 if both parents are counted) plus teachers
and all the extra traffic - buses and cars plus building/construction personnel, also visiting sports associated people (for Charles Bean Oval), other schools who use the oval and so forth...The traffic report states that from 730am - 930am, and, 2.30pm - 5.00pm there will be 350 cars and 14
buses down Dunstan Grove in the morning, and it is likely the same number in the afternoons. This equates to a car every 20 seconds and a bus every 8 minutes - CRAZY! And the numbers will be much greater than this....
With this proposed development, the rate of probability for an accident to occur is extremely high. It is obvious to anyone who lives in this environment that there will be a DEATH of one or several people. We should not be put in such a dangerous situation as this at the front of our own homes.
Will it take a DEATH for things to change?? Does the government really want to take such high risks for public safety??
2. LITIGATION - due to the possible DEATHS/PERMANENT DISABILITY of people due to the dangerous traffic environment, can the government please consider the high probability of there being consequential court cases?
3. Pollution - Noise and Air Pollution will be extremely high with the extra vehicles - both cars and buses, exhaust fumes, noise of the extra possible 6000 plus people (students, parents, visitors to the school, teachers etc. The noise report only considers noise impact once the cars and buses are
inside the school grounds. It gives no consideration to now bringing all the school traffic within 10 metres of our residential buildings. This will have a huge impact on our residents and has not been addressed at all. It is another reason why this proposed loop road should be REJECTED.
4. Environmental Impact - no consideration has been given to the residents of Crimson Hill and how we enjoy the Lane Cove National Park starting from Symonds Trail at the end of our Private Drive-way. So much of the natural environment will be adversely affected - the destruction of trees, plants, native animals (who I see from my balcony). It is incomprehensible that the government would even consider destroying such a fragile environment by taking the Loop Road around the school and into part of the Lane Cove National Park. Also, A heritage-listed and Sulman Medal-winning building is partially being demolished to accommodate the loop road proposed as well as the removal of significant trees. The E3 zone was specifically drawn at the edge of the existing buildings so that the bushland setting of the heritage buildings could be maintained. The proposed Loop Road undermines this planning framework that set the community’s expectations for how this site would be developed in the future.
5. Construction Impact - having lived with 6 months of construction at our front door during the Phase 1 of construction, we had continuous issues with road blockages due to deliveries down Dunstan Grove and trades people parking to unload. This generated a high level of noise (reversing beepers) as well as numerous delays in trying to get in or out of OUR OWN property, and this was when the main access was at the front of the school! The Construction Management Plan for Stage 2 and 3 now shows the main site access being directly at our driveway and buildings. We will experience MUCH MORE noise and blockages from this site access than in stage 1. There is no reason for it to be here, when they can access the site from the existing roads on the eastern side.
I want this PLAN CHANGED to enforce access from the eastern side of the school. This was also requested by our Owners Committee and ignored.

POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS:
1. Please consider having buses use the existing bus shelter or develop this - it could certainly do with a revamp.
2. Please consider further extending the road into the school and as a loop road IN the school on the Eastern side (looking towards Chatswood).
3. Please consider LESS students as well - there are far too many people in one place, when the surrounding environment is considered. Already with only 500 students, we have noticed poor behaviour of these students in our neighbourhood (climbing fences, sitting on top of the bus shelter roof where the police had to be called, poor behaviour on the public buses etc.).
4. Please IMPROVE Pedestrian Safety – Dunstan Grove residents and school children must cross Dunstan Grove to get to the school or bus stop. The current unmarked crossing is on a blind corner and is already very dangerous with the current light traffic. This will become extremely dangerous with the proposed increased traffic. There is no consideration in the proposal about how this will be dealt with. There is no provision for a crossing at the school entry and the current crossing and this is not suitable for accessible use.
Again, I want the eastern alternatives to be further considered.
The proposal also relies on 200 children walking to school as part of its traffic assessment. It claims that the there is a safe, continuous walkway from the school to Lindfield Public School, but this is not the case. There are no pedestrian crossings and school children will be forced to cross the
road unsafely in four situations. There are also sections where the footpath is not compliant with no space for children, cyclists and other footpath users to safely pass (people are forced to use the roads). Additionally, there is no footpath to Roseville Station and children will be forced to
walk on the road with the buses. I want the footpaths and pedestrian crossings to be properly installed to ensure the safely of school children and residents before the additional number of children, parents, teachers, visitors are increased.

This proposal has been kept secret from local residents for 18 months and is now being rushed
through during the Christmas period. There has not been adequate time allowed for proper
consultation or time to understand the impacts of the proposal. The Department must not rush the
planning process and give proper consideration of the community’s objections, particularly given the
errors, misleading statements and inadequate assessment in the RTS submitted.

I hope that you take my concerns into consideration when processing the LLV Schools Infrastructure
proposal.

Kind regards.

Good morning,

I would like to lodge my objection as a very concerned local Lindfield resident to the proposed Lindfield Learning Village Stages 2 and 3.

There are accidents waiting to happen if the proposed so called “LOOP ROAD” goes ahead. The road is very narrow with blind spots. There have been numerous reports of near accidents. I have personally witnessed, and heard from other residents, cars speeding on the very narrow and curvy road endangering other vehicles and pedestrians. There needs to be another route to accommodate for the drop off and pick up of students and staff.

The traffic report states that from 7.30am - 9.30am and 2.30pm - 5.00pm there will be 350 cars and 14 buses down Dunstan Grove in the morning, and it is likely the same number in the afternoons. I am sure these are conservative estimates. This equates to a car every 20 seconds and a bus every 8 minutes!

We recently had a community consultation session on the 7th of December, and it was apparent that the project team has not considered numerous safety aspects. As a local resident while I am very supportive of the school, I am very concerned to learn that it is planned to modify the existing access route for drop-off & pick-up of children from the eastern side of the school into Dunstan Grove.


My concerns about this are as follows:

• Vehicle Safety – Dunstan Grove is a very narrow and curved road and was only built for very limited access. It is already very tight for cars to pass each other, with limited sight lines and there are already delays while cars park at the oval community centre. There is no assessment of how buses can fit down the road safely with traffic travelling in the opposite direction. Schools Infrastructure has made no attempt to demonstrate investigation of alternatives to the proposed Loop Road. They have clearly chosen the cheapest and easiest option for themselves, at the expense of the Dunstan Grove community, who will experience significant road and safety issues and increased congestion. Our Committee has provided 2 alternative proposals that keep the traffic on the eastern side of the site (within the school boundary) which would remove these safety issues. I want these to be further considered.

• Pedestrian Safety – Dunstan Grove residents and school children must cross Dunstan Grove to get to the school or bus stop. The current unmarked crossing is on a blind corner and is already very dangerous with the current light traffic. This will become extremely dangerous with the proposed increased traffic. There is no consideration in the proposal about how this will be dealt with. Similarly, there is no provision for a crossing at the school entry and the current crossing there is not suitable for accessible use. Again, I want the eastern alternatives to be further considered.

The proposal also relies on 200 children walking to school as part of its traffic assessment. It claims that the there is a safe, continuous walkway from the school to Lindfield Public, but this is not the case. There are no pedestrian crossings and school children will be forced to cross the road unsafely in four situations. There are also sections where the footpath is not compliant with no space for children, cyclists and other footpath users to safely pass (people are forced to use the roads) Additionally, there is no footpath to Roseville Station and children will be forced to walk on the road with the buses. I want the footpaths and pedestrian crossings to be properly installed to ensure the safely of school children and residents before the additional increased traffic commences.

• Noise impacts – The noise report only considers noise impact once the cars and buses are inside the school grounds. It gives no consideration to now bringing all the school traffic within 10 metres of our residential buildings. This will have a huge impact on our residents and has not been addressed at all. It is another reason why this proposed loop road should be rejected.

• Construction Impact – During the Phase 1 of construction, we had continuous issues with road blockages due to deliveries down Dunstan Grove and trades people parking to unload. This generated considerable noise (reversing beepers) as well as numerous delays in trying to get in or out of our property, and this was when the main access was at the front of the school! The Construction Management Plan for Stage 2 and 3 now shows the main site access being directly at our driveway and buildings. We will experience more noise and impact from this site access than in stage 1. There is no reason for it to be here, when they can access the site from the existing roads on the eastern side. I want this plan changed to enforce access from the eastern side of the school. This was also requested by our Owners Committee and ignored.

Further to my points above I am also concerned that -

# The parking for Charles Bean Sports field has not been considered. Currently a lot of cars are parked on the vacant areas of the former Screen Australia site. Once that site is built up were will the cars go? The field is on the proposed loop road and will add to the morning traffic.

# In the community consultation session, we were told that the existing pedestrian foot path will be reduced, and the pedestrians will need to access stairs. This will make it extremely difficult for people with disability and parents with prams.

# In many of the drawings and plans for the school, the Dunstan Grove residential complex is not even shown or considered. This constructs a false image of the immediate vicinity. This is a major slip.

# There has hardly been any consultation with the local residents who have real life understanding of what’s required. Even alternative plans being proposed by the Dunstan Grove community have been ignored.

# A heritage-listed and Sulman Medal-winning building is partially being demolished to accommodate the loop road proposed as well as the removal of significant trees. The E3 zone was specifically drawn at the edge of the existing buildings so that the bushland setting of the heritage buildings could be maintained. The proposed Loop Road undermines this planning framework that set the community’s expectations for how this site would be developed in the future.

# This proposal has been kept secret from local residents for 18 months and is now being rushed through during the Christmas period. There has not been adequate time allowed for proper consultation or time to understand the impacts of the proposal. The Department must not rush the planning process and give proper consideration of the community’s objections, particularly given the errors, misleading statements and inadequate assessment in the RTS submitted.

# Inconsistent and inadequate documentation – The RtS incorrectly states that no works are proposed in the E3 Environmental Management Zone, when in fact the Loop Road and various other works are proposed. There are also inconsistencies in the documentation that are unclear about who will be able to use the Loop Road. The Noise Report is unclear and doesn't properly identify which dwellings will be affected by noise.

I hope that you take my concerns into consideration when processing the LLV Schools Infrastructure proposal.

Please note - I do not want my personal information released.

Regards.

I am writing to you to lodge my objection to the proposed Lindfield Learning Village Stages 2 and 3.

I do not want my personal information released

While I am very supportive of the school, I am very concerned to learn that it is planned to modify the existing access route for drop-off & pick-up of children from the eastern side of the school into Dunstan Grove.

This brings a great concern to me as I often use the footpath with my young grandchild, the current condition is quite tight already, with us seeing vehicle crossing over the white line to make the turnm, especially a larger vehicle. I also believe the planners of this project did not take into consideration the residents regularly uses the road/roundabout for the removalist/garbage truck, this will definitely generate a gridlock for our road when these big vehicles are on site, which create inconvience for both the residents and the school goers.

I hope that you take my concerns into consideration when processing the LLV Schools Infrastructure proposal.
Regards.

PLEASE REFER TO ATTACHED LETTER FOR FULL SUBMISSION COMMENTS (Below is summary only)

Please note my objection to the current proposal for Stage 2 & 3 works to Lindfield Learning Village.
Whilst as a local resident I am in favour of an LLV School, in principle, I have some very strong objections to the current proposal for Stages 2 & 3. My primary objection is the very DANGEROUS Loop Road and IGNORANT traffic proposals. I also would propose that the overall school numbers are reduced so as to minimise the impost on the local road network (which is very congested as is and does not have the capacity to receive the additional traffic volumes proposed).

I have summarised my concerns as below:
1. Loop Road proposal utilising Dunstan Grove is VERY UNSAFE and irresponsible
2. Community Consultation is laughable
3. Emergency Vehicle access is compromised
4. Local roads are NOT SAFE for proposed traffic
5. Traffic & Transport Assessment Report is a whitewash
6. No alternatives have been proposed
7. Green Transport Plan is wishful thinking, but should not be relied upon as factual

While I am very supportive of the school, I am very concerned to learn that it is planned to modify the existing access route for drop-off & pick-up of children from the eastern side of the school into Dunstan Grove.
The traffic report states that from 7.30am - 9.30am and 2.30pm - 5.00pm there will be 350 cars and 14 buses down Dunstan Grove in the morning, and it is likely the same number in the afternoons. Given my experience of busy schools with my children (St ives North), I am pretty sure that the number of cars is very conservative. However even with these low estimates, that equates to non stop traffic on Dunstan Grove.

My concerns about this are as follows:

• Vehicle & Pedestrian Safety – Dunstan Grove is a very narrow and curved road and was only built for very limited access. It is already very tight for cars to pass each other, with limited sight lines and there are already delays while cars park at the oval community centre. Whilst I understand that the road will be widen,it will still remain pretty narrow. The school buses when driving on Eton and Grovenor road are not staying in their lane already so they are likely to do the same on Dunstan Grove and potentially run into oncoming traffic. For pedestrian the current unmarked crossing is on a blind corner and is already very dangerous with the current light traffic. This will become extremely dangerous with the proposed increased traffic. Similarly, there is no provision for a crossing at the school entry and the current crossing there is not suitable for accessible use. The only consideration is to put a tiny island in the middle of the road at the crossing. However, the buses are going over the roundabouts on Grovesnor road, so this island will be completely useless. So I am EXTREMELY concerned for the safety of any pedestrian trying to access Dunstan Grove during school time, especially with the blind corners. This is an accident waiting to happen for people who are trying to get to (and from) the oval and or Dunstan Grove from Eton Rd Bus Bay. Furthermore the widening of the road will come to the detriment of the already narrow path to go from Dunstan Grove to the bus bay. It will be impossible for parents with prams to use this path. This will also impact parents coming to LLV with younger kids. Schools Infrastructure has made no attempt to demonstrate investigation of alternatives to the proposed Loop Road. Our Committee has provided 2 alternative proposals that keep the traffic on the eastern side of the site (within the school boundary) which would remove these safety issues. I want these to be further considered.

The proposal also relies on 200 children walking to school as part of its traffic assessment. It claims that the there is a safe, continuous walkway from the school to Lindfield Public, but this is not the case. There are no pedestrian crossings and school children will be forced to cross the road unsafely in four situations. There are also sections where the footpath is not compliant with no space for children, cyclists and other footpath users to safely pass (people are forced to use the roads) Additionally, there is no footpath to Roseville Station and children will be forced to walk on the road with the buses. I want the footpaths and pedestrian crossings to be properly installed to ensure the safely of school children and residents before the additional increased traffic commences. I also want proper path wide enough for parents with kids and prams to walk safely to come to the school.

• Noise and pollution impacts – The noise report only considers noise impact once the cars and buses are inside the school grounds. It gives no consideration to now bringing all the school traffic within 10 metres of our residential buildings. This will have a huge impact on our residents and has not been addressed at all.similarly no pollution impact on the resident of block 5 and 1 directly overlooking the road has been made. As this option was never part of the original plan the most of the resident live in Dunstan Grove to enjoy peace and quiet and leafy area, not traffic and pollution. This is not Pacific Highway. It is another reason why this proposed loop road should be rejected.

• Construction Impact – During the Phase 1 of construction, we had continuous issues with road blockages due to deliveries down Dunstan Grove and trades people parking to unload. This generated considerable noise inclusing on weekends (reversing beepers, dump trucks dumping rubbish...) as well as numerous delays in trying to get in or out of our property (with traffic managers clearly not caring about the resident as spending most of their time on the phone), and this was when the main access was at the front of the school! The Construction Management Plan for Stage 2 and 3 now shows the main site access being directly at our driveway and buildings. We will experience more noise and impact from this site access than in stage 1. There is no reason for it to be here, when they can access the site from the existing roads on the eastern side. I want this plan changed to enforce access from the eastern side of the school. This was also requested by our Owners Committee and ignored.
Any other school that I know of having building works done at the moment (and there are a few) are using their own access not the neighbouring residents'one, why should it be different?

A heritage-listed and Sulman Medal-winning building is partially being demolished to accommodate the loop road proposed as well as the removal of significant trees. The E3 zone was specifically drawn at the edge of the existing buildings so that the bushland setting of the heritage buildings could be maintained. The proposed Loop Road undermines this planning framework that set the community’s expectations for how this site would be developed in the future.

This proposal has been kept secret from local residents for 18 months and is now being rushed through during the Christmas period. There has not been adequate time allowed for proper consultation or time to understand the impacts of the proposal. The Department must not rush the planning process and give proper consideration of the community’s objections, particularly given the errors, misleading statements and inadequate assessment in the RTS submitted. Again this was very misleading as this was never part of the original plans and therefore residents bought their units on wrong assumptions if this goes ahead and will be the ones to bear the financial and mental burden.

Inconsistent and inadequate documentation – The RTS incorrectly states that no works are proposed in the E3 Environmental Management Zone, when in fact the Loop Road and various other works are proposed. There are also inconsistencies in the documentation that are unclear about who will be able to use the Loop Road. The Noise Report is unclear and doesn't properly identify which dwellings will be affected by noise. The documentation submitted to the public for comment is also wrong as it does not show any of the neighbouring building near LLV and therefore does not allow people not knowing the area properly to fully assess the proposition.

I hope that you take my concerns into consideration when processing the LLV Schools Infrastructure proposal.

Regards

Dear Sir/Madam

I am writing to submit my strong objection to the proposed Stages 2 and 3 of Lindfield Learning Village (Proposal).

Whilst I generally support the LLV initiative, since becoming aware of the Proposal (which will entirely change the current access route for LLV children during set-down and pick-up times), I have become extremely concerned. Under the Proposal, having an estimated 350 cars and 14 buses travelling down Dunstan Grove in both directions in the mornings and afternoons gives rise to very significant safety risks, not only to LLV children, but the general public and their vehicles.

Based on my experience of regularly driving up and down Dunstan Grove, increasing the volume of traffic in both directions in accordance with the Proposal significantly increases the risk of pedestrian and vehicle collisions. I am not only concerned but angry and disturbed that such collisions could very well be life-threatening, including if emergency services are not able to access Dunstan Grove in the event that such a collision was to occur during the designated set-down and pick-up timeframes. It is outrageous that such an outcome could occur in such a densely populated area involving the lives of many young, vulnerable children.

For these reasons, as a mother of 2 young children, I consider that it is essential that an alternative to the current proposed Loop Road be explored. Whilst I can appreciate that the current proposal constitutes an ‘easy’ option for NSW Schools Infrastructure (presumably because the costs of any other alternative would likely be much higher), adopting such an approach (in my view) places lives at risk.

In addition to the safety-related concerns which I have outlined above, on a personal note, I feel that the processes surrounding Proposal have not be transparent. Even though I understand that the Proposal has been in place for a period in the order of 18 months (without any substantial detail being provided to residents in the area), it is now being ‘pushed through’ during the Christmas period. I do not consider that there has been adequate time allowed for proper consultation or time to understand the impacts of the Proposal on the broader community in the area.

Thanks you for taking the time to review my objection. I hope my concerns are taken on board.

Yours sincerely

Dear Sir/Madam

I am writing to object to the proposed Stages 2 and 3 (Proposal) of Lindfield Learning Village (LLV).

I do not consent to my personal information be released to any other person (natural or otherwise), including in connection with this objection.

The NSW’s Government’s LLV initiative is an important one. However, since becoming aware of the Government’s plans to entirely change the current access route for LLV children during set-down and pick-up times from the eastern side of the school into Dunstan Grove, I have become very concerned.

I understand from the relevant traffic report that from 7.30am - 9.30am and 2.30pm - 5.00pm there will be (at a conservative estimate) 350 cars and 14 buses travelling into Dunstan Grove both in the mornings and afternoons.

This constitutes an unprecedented volume of traffic in a narrow corridor, which gives rise to unacceptable safety risks to (and compromises the safety of) multiple groups of people. It remains entirely unclear to me how the Proposal meets applicable work health and safety legislation.

I set out my concerns in more detail below:

• Resident and child safety compromised – I have seen on several occasions, ‘near misses’ involving pedestrians and vehicles on Dunstan Grove. The proposed increased traffic will only increase the likelihood of such ‘near misses’ eventuating into actual (potentially life-threatening) collisions. The proposal does not appear to address this concern. In my view, alternative routes on the eastern side should be explored so as not to compromise pedestrian safety.

The proposal is premised on an estimated 200 children (again, this appears inappropriately conservative as an estimate) walking to school as part of its traffic assessment and asserts that there is a safe walkway from the school to the Pacific Highway. However, this is not the case. There are no pedestrian crossings and school children will be forced to cross the road unsafely at several points. There are also sections where the footpath does not appear compliant with applicable regulations (for example, with no space for children, cyclists and other footpath users to safely pass).

• Emergency access compromised – in my view, the proposal will compromise the ability of emergency services (including ambulance, police and fire) to access the Dunstan Grove community during the set-down and pick-up times. The effects of this compromise could be tragic and disastrous.

• Vehicle safety compromised – It is currently difficult to navigate vehicles down the narrow corridor that constitutes Dunstan Grove. I have not seen any appropriate assessment of how buses will be able to travel safely in both directions. Further, it is unclear to me how NSW Schools Infrastructure has attempted to demonstrate the investigation of alternatives to the proposed Loop Road. It appears that the ‘cheapest and easiest’ option has been selected as part of the Proposal, at the expense of not only of general safety of the public, but also the Dunstan Grove residential community, who will experience significant road and safety issues and increased congestion.

For obvious reasons, the above concerns are serious and I hope they are appropriately considered in processing the LLV proposal.

Yours sincerely